Ghouls’ First Reactions to a New “Nightmare”
Posted by Scara on Thursday Apr 29, 2010 Under Remakes, Romance
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Maedusa and I went to a screening of the new “A Nightmare on Elm Street” last night. We had a little chat over g-chat this afternoon about the resurrection of iconic character Krueger.
I feel that I must make this disclaimer: I suffer from some (whiskey-induced) memory loss so the details of the first “A Nightmare on Elm Street” are as hazy to me as that guy with the fedora who keeps popping up in my dreams at night.
What’s his name?
Oh yes, Don Draper.
But I digress. For those of you who don’t wish to read our long-winded im appraisal of the current state of Krueger’s sweater, I am going to give you the end of the conversation first. Find out if you should bother spending your hard-earned ducats on this old-is-new-again-franchise. For more details on what we saw and what we hated keep reading, but beware of spoilers.
“A Nightmare on Elm Street”: Dig It or Bury It?
Maedusa: I give it a reluctant dig… But only on the basis that it was better than most remakes. If it was a stand-alone and a new franchise, I’d probably bury it for some of the ridiculousness. I would say “dig,” but with a bit of hesitance. You? Oooh! I forgot. That was one other thing that made me reluctant about this one: Apparently, Freddy is now able to kill outside of Elm St. and branching out into TX, etc. I like when you have some limitations on the monster, but they kind of took that out.
Scara: Bury It. There wasn’t enough inventiveness in the new story to out-scare the old story. I will take a clownish, punning original Freddy over Freddy 2.0 every time. The references to classic death scenes should have been smarter and if you are going to modernize teens and make them goths (which I approve of) can’t you make them a little less boring? Also, I totally agree about a traveling Freddy.
Maedusa: Good point. I much prefer Englund’s Freddy. He was innovative in that he was probably the first Clown prince of Horror. I like Haley, but he seemed squandered in the role. With all the effects and CG at their disposal and the budget, they could have done better!
Jackie Earle Haley’s Freddy – Burnt Bunny Coached by Christian Bale?
Scara: What about the new Freddy? Not so clownish anymore.
Maedusa: He was definitely much more sinister than Englund’s Krueger. Granted, he was funnier later on, but even in the ‘84 movie, he was still sort of the baddie you rooted for.
Yeah… I liked, but didn’t like the makeup at the same time.
Scara: Yeah it was repulsive at times, which is the point.
Maedusa: Sometimes, it looked REALLY horrific… Others, I think he looked like a burnt bunny or just a tad fake. Like the placement of his eyes, etc.
Scara: But he still looked like Jackie Earle a bit.
Maedusa: You could definitely tell it was Jackie Earle under there, even with the extensive scarring. The voice was a dead giveaway, too!
Scara: Oh the voice. I was afraid about the voice and I was right – too much Rorschach not enough Freddy.
Maedusa: I kind of imagined him dialing Christian Bale and asking him for advice on how to vocally approach the role. It was VERY Rorschach.
Remake or Homage? Or Both? Or Neither?
Maedusa: I was at least grateful they didn’t do a scene-for-scene remake. Gotta give them points for trying to include an original story. If their aim was trying to make Freddy much more sinister and unlikeable, they got it done.
Scara: But they did tie-in some classic Freddy moments.
Some lines were directly lifted and there were references to other death scenes. The 2nd floor hallway reminded me of the melting stairs, there was the whole bedroom death scene and the jail.
Maedusa: Yep. i remember a few. The whole “I’m your boyfriend now” bit. And the Freddy painting the walls with Blonde Pouty Girl in the PG cuddle scene.
I was disappointed they didn’t do the dragging of the claws on the walls or the long Freddy hands.
Scara: Back to the fx for a minute, they were a little lame, no?
Maedusa: I was NOT impressed with the effects at all. For all of the wonders that CG can do today, it seems like they utilized NONE of them. Craven did a much better job on a $1.2 million budget in the original back in ‘84.
Scara: The part with the Freddy head coming out of the wall was very disappointing. I know it was an original Elm Street reference … but did it have to look like it was left over from the original?
Maedusa: It looked too cartoonish. I thought that, too. I’m sure it was a nod to the original, but it just looked a bit cheesy.
Plot – Just a Thought, Sometimes a Little Mystery Is Scarier…
Scara: Oh! We have to talk about the children.
Maedusa: Ugh… The kids! All of them were blonde! It was like Freddy tried to take out the Hitler Youth!!!
Scara: For anyone who didn’t know the story, they probably figured it out in the first five minutes. They literally stuffed it down our throats. And why was every clue so easy to find?
Maedusa: That was what bugged me. They found EVERYTHING within seconds and with a modicum of mess: Old pictures, slashed baby clothes… And let’s not forget the two vials of adrenaline and needles. It bothered me that Fabu-Lash didn’t even bother to get the air bubble out of the needle before he injected himself. Even better: The information on the internet. Extremely common names turned up as the first results on the No Name Search Engine of Awesomeness!
Scara: I know this (the minutia) isn’t the point, the point is to be scared. I think the point here is we weren’t scared enough and interested enough in the actual movie. We were both totally distracted by minor points – ok, maybe plot is major.
I wrote “point” a lot in that last sentence.
What was my point?
Maedusa: LOL! But it wasn’t just us… The reaction of a lot of people in the theatre was that they were laughing, too. I think people come to expect more “realism” from even horror films now. And the ‘84 Freddy, in spite of itself, seemed more realistic than this one. Sure, Freddy was more gruesome and realistic makeup-wise, but the plot holes were just too big to ignore. Nightmare 2.0 seemed to go for overhauling only the cosmetic points, but neglected the real details that make you care about the characters.
Goths Are the New 80s Teens But Where’s Johnny? … Freddy Is a Pedo
Scara: Oh god, not the diner scene cliché.
Maedusa: Ugh…. The diner scene! Was that to set the tone of awkward teenage interaction & pouting?
Scara: Also …
I was transfixed by Katie Cassidy’s wonky eye. She looked like she was having an allergic reaction to Kellan Lutz.
Maedusa Oooh! Now that you mention it … Yeah. I can see that.
I was actually noticing how all of the guys in the film had Maybelline long lashes.
Scara: Yep. This is a nice transition for us to talk about the Goths.
Maedusa: Swim Club: Now for Goth kids, too!
Scara: Most unbelievable part of the movie: chubby Goth has a swimmer’s body.
Maedusa: That was the part that got me. Principal Kurgan’s kid was kind of a hottie!! Who knew!?
Even more miraculously, the goth kids were the ones who had all of the survival skill techniques to survive.
Sara: He was cute- talk about long lashes.
Maedusa: Yeah. I was pleasantly surprised by Young Mr. Joy Division. I wonder if the producers did their research on that band? Hmmm….
Scara: What about Nancy? Since she’s pretty much the only recurring character …
I think she was likable in the same way the original was. Interesting how all the relationships in the movie were very PG.
Maedusa: I read that the actress has already been contracted for a sequel. I did find her very likeable… Different from the Heather Langenkamp Nancy, but still likeable.
Scara: In other words: no boobs.
Maedusa: Yeah…. I noticed the PG-relationship. They were very PC with tap dancing around subject matter on this movie. No boobs. Some grape smuggling action, but that was about it. Even the “Hey! I’m going to climb in through your window like Zach Morris and just cuddle before Freddy eviscerates you” was super PG. They didn’t even mention the “m-word” even though Freddy was a pedo loomed over the whole flick.
Scara: I looked back at Wiki for the original “A Nightmare on Elm Street” details and it says Freddy was a child murderer – but no mention of molestation. (I know that Wiki isn’t necessarily the best place to get this info.) The writers really made it a point to make him unforgivably evil in this movie, so I guess that is where they had to take it.
Maedusa: Eh, Wiki isn’t a bad place to get it from. I do remember him being a murderer, but didn’t know for sure if they touched on the molestation thing. I’m wondering if they’re going this route as a cultural touchstone, with that being such a huge topic nowadays (i.e. the Church, Pope, etc.)?
There you have it, that’s pretty much how our conversation and my lunch break ended.
After seeing “A Nightmare on Elm Street” I would have to agree with the famous words put forth by Fishbone:
“Freddy’s dead, don’t be mislead.”



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Ghouls: Tell me a little bit about the process. How do you come up with themes, who does the make-up, costuming, etc.
So any one shot had days and days of pre-production going into it. For some of the more involved shots where we needed prosthetics, Nick would do a cast of the models face then make a wax positive and artistically handcraft the gory bits from that, after which he would make another mold, and then pour liquid latex into that to create the prosthetic. It was quite an involved process.
Ghouls: If the zombie apocalypse does come:





